JOE THE PLUMMER... KNIFE IN McCAIN'S BACK

Dear Joe,
Actually a lot of us Republicans had a problem with the bailout... including me. But here's the deal. If you really were afraid of Obama becoming president (and you should have been)you would realize that the economy was killing McCain. He had pulled even and actually ahead of Obama based on the "Commander In Chief"/3:00a.m. call issue. When the economy melted down it allowed Obama to pull ahead. McCain needed the economy issue to go away... and fast. Now all of a sudden you want to bash him (just like Beck did during the last weeks of the election... perhaps because he wanted Mitt to be able to run in 2012.. or perhaps because it would help him on the radio)and sell a book. Perhaps you and Beck ought to put "Country First". As for the book... i think i'll take a pass. If you think the bailout was bad (and it was)wait till you see what Obama and the Dems will do in the next 4 fours. As for Palin... of course she is the real deal... but i'm telling you right now... Beck will start to bash her in favor of Mitt. Mark my words. Richard

This is from the Associated Press:

TOLEDO, Ohio (Dec. 10) – Turns out that "Joe the Plumber" isn't such a big fan of John McCain after all.
America's most famous plumber said he was appalled by the Republican presidential candidate's reasons for supporting the government's $700 billion bank rescue plan, and he said they nearly caused him to abandon McCain.
A Campaign CelebrityLori King, Toledo Blade / AP6 photos Joe Wurzelbacher, America's most famous plumber, is lashing out at the man he once supported for president. On Tuesday, he said he was appalled by former GOP presidential nominee John McCain's reasons for supporting the government's $700 billion bank bailout plan. "I was angry," Wurzelbacher said. "In fact, I wanted to get off the bus after I talked to him."(Note: Please disable your pop-up blocker)
Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, who became a household name in the final weeks of the presidential campaign, said he asked McCain why he voted for the bank bailout and was stunned by some of the answers.
"I was angry," Wurzelbacher told conservative radio host Glenn Beck on Tuesday. "In fact, I wanted to get off the bus after I talked to him."
Wurzelbacher, who endorsed McCain a week before the election and joined him on the campaign trail, didn't say exactly what set him off, hinting that would be in his book that is due out this month.
He said the only reason he didn't get off the McCain bandwagon was "because the thought of Barack Obama becoming president scares me even more."
Wurzelbacher, 34, gained his national attention when Obama told him during a campaign stop that he wanted to "spread the wealth around" and their exchange about Obama's tax plan was widely reported. McCain repeatedly cited "Joe the Plumber" in a debate, saying Obama's plan would hurt people like him who want to own their own businesses.
Wurzelbacher also campaigned with vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin. He had only praise for her, calling Palin the real deal.
"It disgusts me on how often they try to bash her just for her sincerity," he said. "She really wants to work for America."

THE LATEST ON THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN ISSUE

Here is some of the latest info on the status of the obama saga... i will post a little later regarding the various ways this could pan out depending on whether it were to happen before or after the electoral college vote and whether it happens before or after obama is sworn in (though thnaks to the media you might already think he is president.) r2

WROTNOWSKI APPLICATION REFERRED TO FULL COURT BY JUSTICE SCALIA - DISTRIBUTED FOR CONFERENCE ON DEC 12

Posted in Uncategorized on December 8, 2008 by naturalborncitizen

PRESS RELEASE: 12.08.08 7:20 pm

Cort Wrotnowski’s emergency application for a stay and/or injunction as to the Electoral College meeting on Dec. 15 was today referred to the full Court by the Honorable Associate Justice Anotonin Scalia. It has been distributed for Conference of Friday December 12. The official case name is WROTNOWSKI v. BYSIEWICZ, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A469.

The Wrotnowski Supreme Court application was prepared by Leo Donofrio, Esq. and is centered on the same issue from Donofrio’s case which was discussed by the Supreme Court in its conference of December 5 - whether Barack Obama is not eligible to the office of President due to the fact that he was a British citizen at the time of his birth.

Tomorrow, Dec. 9 - Cort Wrotnowski will submit a supplemental brief concerning the newly discovered ineligibility of twenty-first President Chester Arthur due to his having been born as a British subject. This is relevant to the case at hand in that Justice Gray - who wrote the seminal opinion in United States v. Wong Kim Ark - was appointed by Chester Arthur.

The Wong Kim Ark case involves an important historical opinion that SCOTUS Justices will certainly consider as to the Obama natural born citizen issue.

The recent discovery calls into question the motivations of both Arthur and Gray since Arthur’s father was a British subject not naturalized at the time of Chester’s birth. In fact, William Arthur was not naturalized until 1843, fourteen years after Chester was born. In the light of historical retrospection, Justice Gray’s decision in Wong Kim Ark seems tailor made to the circumstances of Arthur’s birth.

Chester Arthur was born in 1829. The 14th Amendment wasn’t ratified until 1868, and Wong Kim Ark was decided in 1898. But under United States law in 1829 it’s not clear that Arthur would have even been considered a United States citizen at the time of his birth, let alone a “natural born citizen” eligible to be President. At best, he would have been a dual citizen of Great Britain and the United States.

It was proved earlier this week, by various articles in the Brooklyn Eagle printed circa 1880, and other authorities, that when Arthur was on the campaign trail as Garfield’s running mate he lied many times about his father’s emigration record, his parents’ life in Canada before coming to the United States, and his father’s age. Chester also burned his papers and falsified his birth year. It appears now that he was doing so to conceal the POTUS eligibility issue.

Every other President (who didn’t become eligible under the Article 2, Section 1 grandfather clause) was born to American citizen parents in the United States. The fact that he was a British subject at birth was first reported on Friday Dec. 5.

It must now be questioned whether the relationship between Chester Arthur and Justice Gray was influenced by Arthur’s eligibility problems and whether those issues effected Gray’s opinion and vote in Wong Kim Ark.

It must also be considered that the integrity of Justice Gray’s SCOTUS appointment might have been called into question if Chester Arthur’s POTUS ineligibility issues had become known.


All of the above is relevant to the issue of whether Barack Obama is a natural born citizen in that the core Supreme Court opinion in Wong Kim Ark must now be re-evaluated in lieu of the fact that the Justice who wrote the opinion was appointed by Chester Arthur.

Leo Donofrio will accompany Cort Wrotnowski to Washington D.C. tomorrow and both will be available for comment at 11:00 AM on the steps of the Supreme Court. This is not a rally, protest or vigil. If the media would like to discuss this historical brief and the issues discussed above, Donofrio and Wrotnowski will be available to answer any questions thereto.

Leo C. Donofrio, Esq.

Cort Wrotnowski


DONOFRIO APPLICATION DENIED - WROTNOWSKI APPLICATION STILL PENDING
Posted in Uncategorized on December 8, 2008 by naturalborncitizen
[UPDATE 12:23 PM The main stream media should stop saying SCOTUS refused to hear the case. It was distributed for conference on Nov. 19. They had the issue before them for for sixteen days. Yes, they didn't take it to the next level of full briefs and oral argument. But they certainly heard the case and read the issues. The media is failing to acknowledge that. The case and issues were considered. Getting the case to the full Court for such consideration was my goal. I trust the Supreme Court had good reason to deny the application. Despite many attempts to stop their full review, my case was placed on their desks and into their minds. Please remember that. It's important for history to record that.]

My application was denied. The Honorable Court chose not to state why.

Wrotnowksi v. Connecticut Secretary of State is still pending as an emergency application resubmitted to the Honorable Associate Justice Antonin Scalia as of last Tuesday. I worked extensively on that application and it includes a more solid brief and a less treacherous lower Court procedural history.

After six days, it’s interesting that Scalia neither denied it nor referred it to the full Court.

My case may have suffered from the NJ Appellate Division Judge having incorrectly characterized my original suit as a “motion for leave to appeal” rather than the “direct appeal” that it actually was. On Nov. 21 I filed official Judicial misconduct charges with the NJ Supreme Court Advisory Committee on Judicial Conduct, and I updated SCOTUS about that by a letter which is part of SCOTUS Docket as of Nov. 22. The NJ Appellate Divison official case file is fraudulent.

On the chance that SCOTUS was looking at both my case and Cort’s case, I must stress that Cort’s case does not have the same procedural hang up that mine does. It may be that without a decision on the Judicial misconduct allegation correcting the NJ Appellate Division case file, SCOTUS might have been in the position of not being able to hear my case as it would appear that my case was not before them on the proper procedural grounds.

I did file a direct appeal under the proper NJ Court rules, but the lower Court judge refused to acknowledge that and if his fraudulent docketing was used by SCOTUS they would have a solid procedural basis to throw mine out.

I don’t know if it’s significant that Cort’s case was not denied at the same time as mine. His case argues the same exact theory - that Obama is not a natural born citizen because he was a British citizen at birth.

All eyes should now be closely watching US Supreme Court Docket No. 08A469, Wrotnowski v. Bysiewicz.


If Cort’s application is also denied then the fat lady can sing. Until then, the same exact issue is before SCOTUS as was in my case. Cort’s application before SCOTUS incorporates all of the arguments and law in mine, but we improved on the arguments in Cort’s quite a bit as we had more time to prepare it.

I was in a rush to get mine to SCOTUS before election day, which I did do on Nov. 3.

Cort’s case has a much cleaner lower court procedural history.

I’m not trying to play with people’s minds here. SCOTUS has not updated Cort’s docket and until they do there can be no closure. I was expecting, if they didn’t grant certiorari, that they would deny both cases at the same time so as to provide closure to the underlying issue. I hate to read tea leaves, but Cort’s application is still pending. That’s all we can really say with any certainty.

THE LATEST ON THE COURT FAILING TO DO THEIR DUTY

Supreme Court Won't Review Obama's POTUS Eligibility, Birth Certificate
By Liza Porteus Viana
Dec 8th 2008 10:32AM
Filed Under:eDemocrats, Republicans, Barack Obama, Breaking News, 2008 President


The Supreme Court today said it will not formally consider Barack Obama's eligibility to become president.

You guessed it - this is the case questioning the president-elect's citizenship and whether he is a "natural-born citizen" of the U.S.

Today's decision centered on an emergency appeal from New Jersey man Leo Donofrio, who says Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth. Donofrio said that since Obama had dual nationality at birth - his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject - he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen." The Constitution says all U.S. presidents must be a natural-born citizen in order to hold office.

There's still one case pending before the judicial system giving those questioning Obama's eligibility a little bit of hope that their voices wil be heard.

Attorney Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg's lawsuit but he's not giving up. He and others want Obama and the Democrats to produce the president-elect's "real" birth certificate to the world, instead of the copy that was posted on his FightTheSmears Web site over the summer. They worry that the Constitution is being threatened if the Electoral College gives Obama a pass.

"This is the biggest attempted hoax in the history of our country," Berg, who says he's a Democrat, told Politico. "Obama and [Democratic National Committee Chairman] Howard Dean should all be criminally indicted, tried and criminally jailed."

Obama's camp has been mum on this since the summer.

But I guess they feel they've said their piece and they're not going to fan the flames of any further conspiracy theories on the topic.

RICHARD RANDALL SAYS..... "IT'S YOUR JOB. DO IT."

I CAN'T TELL YOU JUST HOW ANGRY I AM...

UPDATE: The Supreme Court has turned down an emergency appeal from a New Jersey man who says President-elect Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because he was a British subject at birth.

The court did not comment on its order Monday rejecting the call by Leo Donofrio of East Brunswick, N.J., to intervene in the presidential election. Donofrio says that since Obama had dual nationality at birth -- his mother was American and his Kenyan father at the time was a British subject -- he cannot possibly be a "natural born citizen," one of the requirements the Constitution lists for eligibility to be president.

Donofrio also contends that two other candidates, Republican John McCain and Socialist Workers candidate Roger Calero, also are not natural-born citizens and thus ineligible to be president.

At least one other appeal over Obama's citizenship remains at the court. Philip J. Berg of Lafayette Hill, Pa., argues that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as Obama says and the Hawaii secretary of state has confirmed. Berg says Obama also may be a citizen of Indonesia, where he lived as a boy. Federal courts in Pennsylvania have dismissed Berg's lawsuit.

ODD HOW THE COST DOESN'T MATTER!!!!!!!

HERE'S THE DEAL. HE DOESN'T EVEN BOTHER TO COMPUTE THE COST. WHY? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T PAY... WE DO? AMAZING. HERE'S THE ASSOCIATED PRESS STORY WITH THE CRAZY PART IN BOLD (JUST SO YOU DON'T MISS IT)

President-elect Barack Obama said Saturday he wants to revive the economy through a job-creating public works plan on a scale unseen since the building program of the interstate highway system in the 1950s.
He offered no price estimate for the grand plan, how the money might be divided or the effect on the country's financial health at a time of burgeoning deficits.The ideas were outlined in the weekly radio address the day after the government reported that employers cut 533,000 jobs in November, the most in 34 years. They are part of a vision for a massive economy recovery plan Obama wants Congress to pass and have waiting on his desk when he takes office Jan. 20.
The president-elect's address never once used the word "spend," relying instead on "invest" or "investments," and pledging wise stewardship of taxpayer money in upgrading roads and schools, and making public buildings more energy-efficient.
"We won't just throw money at the problem," Obama said. "We'll measure progress by the reforms we make and the results we achieve — by the jobs we create, by the energy we save, by whether America is more competitive in the world."
Obama said his plan would employ millions of people by "making the single largest new investment in our national infrastructure since the creation of the federal highway system in the 1950s." He said state officials would lose the federal dollars if they did not quickly use the money to repair highways and bridges.
According to the Federal Highway Administration, a 1991 final estimate of the cost of the interstate system put it at $128.9 billion, with a federal share of $114.3 billion. The estimate covered only the mileage (42,795 miles) built under the interstate construction program. Construction of the system began in 1956 under President Dwight Eisenhower.
More than 5,000 highway projects are ready to go today, state transportation officials say, if Congress will pony up $64.3 billion as part of an economic aid plan. The American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials, which compiled the list, said the projects would provide jobs and help reduce a backlog of crumbling roads and bridges.
A bipartisan group of governors recently met with Obama to press for some $136 billion in infrastructure projects in addition to money for health care costs.

BIGFOOT REPORTS NEAR FORT CARSON

OK... FIRST OFF, I'M NOT SAYING THESE ARE REAL... BUT I AM SAYING THEY ARE REAL INTERESTING. IT'S THE WEEKEND... A CHANGE OF PACE IS ALWAYS WELCOME. RIGHT?

YEAR: 2006

SEASON: Spring

MONTH: May

STATE: Colorado

COUNTY: El Paso County

LOCATION DETAILS: Area can be reached via HWY 115 from the north or south...Exit I-25 on South Academy BLVD and drive south to the intersection of Academy BLVD and HWY 155, then drive south approximately 20 minutes.

NEAREST TOWN: Colorado Springs or Fort Carson

NEAREST ROAD: HWY 115

OBSERVED: My son and I were turkey hunting on BLM land near Fort Carson, CO. We arrived in the area around 0930hrs. My son is only 3 and 1/2 years old, so we were moving slowly to find a good spot to set up. We were approximately 500 yards off the west side of Sate Hwy 115 in the Table Mountain area. We found a decent site to set up on and started our hunt. I called a few times with my diaphram calls and we heard one turkey gobble about 100yds away. My sun was busy playing with rocks right next to our site. At about 1030hrs I noticed a truck driving down a dirt road that runs through the area. I watched the truck drive through the area and as it turned down a left hand bend in the road, I caught some movement out the corner of my right eye. The movement was approximately 600yds away. I picked up my binoculars to get a better look, hoping it was a turkey coming in to my calls. When I got focused on the object, it definately appeared larger than a turkey, so I checked it out more and focused the lenses better. What I saw, I don't know for sure, but it appeared to be walking upright on its hind legs and and was covering a great deal of ground in a short span of time but was not running. I estimated the being to be approximately 6-7ft in height. It was walking northwest from my location. After about a minute or two it disappeared into some high brush and thickets. That terrain went up and over a little rise. I did not see anything else after that. We left the area about an hour later. I was shakin a little bit from excitement, but didn't want to hang around too much longer. I have told no one of this thinking myself to be a little crazy at the time, but I know I wasn't seeing things and it actualy hapened. I only tell this now to get it off my chest and let you guys determine if what I have said and seen is true or not. The temperature was warm and the sky was clear and sunny.

OTHER WITNESSES: Not really, my 3 yr old son was playing with some rocks in our set-up

OTHER STORIES: Have reviewed this site after the incident and found other sitings in this area

TIME AND CONDITIONS: Mid-morning to almost Noon time, sky was clear and sunny, temperature was warm

ENVIRONMENT: Mountainous, rocky terrain, just south of Cheyenne Mountain Air Station


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Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator David Petti:

After a telephone interview with the witness, a few details can be added to his report. He is a soldier stationed at Ft. Carson and was in between tours of Iraq at the time of this sighting. Prior to this incident, he had not even considered the possibility of these creatures being present in this area but a subsequent internet search convinced him that he may have actually seen a bigfoot because of the numerous other reports in the same general vicinity. For fear of ridicule, he has not discussed his apparent sighting with anyone but felt compelled to make it known and get it on the record.

From his vantage point, the figure was off to the west toward Table Mountain and was headed in a northerly direction toward Cheyenne Mountain and the southern slopes of Pikes Peak. The location is on or very near the El Paso and Fremont County line.

After first noticing the movement, he watched the figure in the distance by eye for almost a minute. Realizing that it was much larger than a turkey, he continued watching through his binoculars for another thirty to forty-five seconds. Due to the uniform dark-brown to black coloring and apparent size, he then thought he was looking at a bear, and then a bear on two legs, at which point he was stunned by the certainty that it was not a bear. The figure clearly walked on two legs for the duration of the sighting. The witness was struck by the apparent speed of the creature walking, but never running, which covered an estimated three to four hundred meters or more while he was focused in on it. He felt certain that, in comparison, he would not be able to cover that amount of distance in that time. The figure was in the open in high grass until he lost sight of it when it went into the brush and then behind a hillside. He kept watching in that direction for several more minutes but saw nothing more.


YEAR: 1999

SEASON: Winter

MONTH: December

STATE: Colorado

COUNTY: El Paso County

LOCATION DETAILS: about 5 miles south of Colorado Springs on highway 115 at the botttom of the hill on a part of the road that the locals call Red Hill.It was on the east side of the road at the end of a highway guardrail.

NEAREST TOWN: Colorado Springs

NEAREST ROAD: Highway 115

OBSERVED: I was driving down the highway in a tractor-trailer rig about 3:30a.m.I was driving about 65 mph.I went around a corner and on the left side of the road I saw something that at first I thought was a deer.This thing than stood upright and seemed to be more than 7 feet tall.I was able to look at it for just a moment as I was driving by.It had wide shoulders and an ape-like face.It's eyes were yellow like a cat's eyes when you shine a light on them.It just kind of looked at me when I went by.I wasn't able to see anything else.

OTHER WITNESSES: just myself

OTHER STORIES: none that I've heard of

TIME AND CONDITIONS: 3:30 am.The skies were cloudy.It was a dark stretch of road with no lights.

ENVIRONMENT: It is a mountainous area with pine trees and juniper bushes.There is a residential area on the west side of the road and Fort Carson Military Reservation on the east side.

A & G References: T16s R67w, section 11, SW4, NE4, 6th Prime Meridian


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Follow-up investigation report:

The report submitted by this fellow was quite thorough so my conversation with him yielded little additional information. However, I was impressed by his story.

The witness was driving his regular route, headed southbound on Hwy 115. It was pre-dawn and overcast, so the night was dark. The sighting occurred on the left (east) side of road lasting the short time the animal was lit by his headlights. While approaching the animal "it was kind of bent over, and as I got closer it kind of stood up." He then noted that it was not a deer or bear as he had begun to assume. It had "eyes in front not like a bear" and "was big with shoulders." He couldn’t tell the color of its fur.

He would’ve looked for tracks later but it snowed that day. He didn’t expect to find any.

The witness, like other Colorado Springs locals, knows the hill as “Red Hill” though it is not designated as such on the USGS quadrangle. Red Hill is approximately 6 miles south of the Fort Carson main gate. Hwy 115 follows the western boundary of Ft. Carson Military Reservation. This is also about 5 miles from NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) located inside Cheyenne Mountain.

THE LATEST ON THE OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE

For the record... I, Richard Randall, think the law of the land, the constitution is important, and that ANYONE (including Barack Obama) should have to prove they are qualified to hold the highest office in the land. If he has nothing to hide he should prove it. He hasn't been willing to do so... so I want (and expect) the highest court in the land to force him to do so.
R2

This is the latest from the Chicago Tribune.
The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's election.

The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer's supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.

The suit originally sought to stay the election, and was filed on behalf of Leo Donofrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell Wells.

Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding, despite appearing on the court's schedule. Legal records show it is only the tip of an iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's election over accusations that he either wasn't born a U.S. citizen or that he later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.

The Obama campaign has maintained that he was born in Hawaii, has an authentic birth certificate, and is a "natural-born" U.S. citizen. Hawaiian officials agree.

Among those filing lawsuits is Alan Keyes, who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Keyes' suit seeks to halt certification of votes in California. Another suit by a Kentucky man seeks to have a federal judge review Obama's original birth certificate, which Hawaiian officials say is locked in a state vault.

Other suits have been filed by Andy Martin, whose case was dismissed in Hawaii, and by an Ohio man whose case also was dismissed. Five more suits, all later dismissed, were filed in Hawaii by a person who is currently suing the "Peoples Association of Human, Animals Conceived God/s and Religions, John McCain [and] USA Govt." The plaintiff previously sought to sue Wikipedia and "All News Media."

The most famous case questioning Obama's citizenship was filed in Pennsylvania in August on behalf of Philip J. Berg and sought to enjoin the Democratic National Committee from nominating Obama. The U.S. Supreme Court denied an application for an injunction and hasn't scheduled a conference on other aspects of the case. Earlier, a federal judge rejected it for "lack of standing"—ruling that Berg had no legal right to sue. In cases like this, judges sometimes believe the matter is best left to political institutions, such as the Electoral College or Congress, said legal scholar Eugene Volokh of the University of California at Los Angeles.

The remaining case with the highest profile is Donofrio vs. Wells. Because it was referred by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to other justices for conference, it gained undue importance for people unschooled in how the court works, Volokh said.

Many petitioners seeking stays of pending events have their cases distributed to the full court, he said. Of those, Volokh found that 782 were denied in the last eight years while just 60 were heard—and not all of those ultimately were successful.