O’Reilly: So another
big week for the Trump administration. Judge Gorsuch, that rollout went very
smoothly, I think.
Trump: Yes it did,
yes it did.
O’Reilly: But the
refugee deal, not so much.
Trump: I think it was
very smooth. We had 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers and
all we did was vet those people very, very carefully.
wouldn't do anything differently if you had to do it over again? Some of your
people didn’t really know what the order was.
Trump: Well, that's
not what General Kelly said. General Kelly — who's now Secretary Kelly — he
said he totally knew, he was aware of it, and it was very smooth. It was 109
O’Reilly: Let's talk
about Iran, your assessment. Do you think we're on a collision course — we
being the United States — with that country?
Trump: I think it was
the worst deal I’ve ever seen negotiated. I think it was a deal that never
should have been negotiated —
O’Reilly: The nuclear
The deal that was made by the Obama administration. I think it’s a shame that
we’ve had a deal like that and that we had to sign a deal like that and there
was no reason to do it and if you’re going to do it, have a good deal.
We gave them $1.7
billion in cash, which is unheard of, and we put the money up and we have
really nothing to show for it.
you’ll tear it up?
Trump: We’ll see what
happens. We’re going to see what happens. I can say this: They have total
disregard for our country. They are the number one terrorist state, they are
sending money all over the place, and weapons, and you can’t do that.
that’s how you’re gonna start with them. But you’re moving a carrier right?
Trump: I never talk
about military moves. I always criticized President Obama with having an
announcement that they’re going into Mosul. They give the name, the date the
time. I don’t believe in that.
O’Reilly: So you’re
not real bullish on Iran at this point.
Trump: I’m not
bullish. I think they have total disrespect for our country and I understand
that deal. I would have lived with it if they said “OK, were all together now,”
but it’s just the opposite. It’s like they’re emboldened. They follow our
planes, they circle our ships with their little boats and they lost respect
because they can’t believe anybody could be so stupid as to make a deal like
O’Reilly: You talked
to Putin last week. You had a busy week last week.
Trump: Busy week and
O’Reilly: Do you
Trump: I do respect
him but —
O’Reilly: Do you?
I respect a lot of people but that doesn’t mean I’m going to get along with
him. He’s a leader of his country. I say it’s better to get along with Russia
than not. And if Russia helps us in the fight against ISIS, which is a major
fight, and Islamic terrorism all over the world — that’s a good thing. Will I
get along with him? I have no idea.
he’s a killer though. Putin’s a killer.
Trump: There are a
lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What do you think — our country’s
so innocent. You think our country’s so innocent?
O’Reilly: I don’t
know of any government leaders that are killers.
Trump: Well — take a
look at what we’ve done too. We made a lot of mistakes. I’ve been against the
war in Iraq from the beginning.
mistakes are different than —
Trump: A lot of
mistakes, but a lot of people were killed. A lot of killers around, believe me.
O’Reilly: Let’s talk
about Mexico. There’s a report that you talked to President Nieto and you told
him — this was the report, I want to know if it’s true or not — that if his
army couldn’t handle the drug cartels, that U.S. army soldiers would. Did you
Trump: We have to do
something about the cartels. I did talk to him about it. I want to help him
with it. I think he’s a very good man. We have a very good relationship, as you
probably know. He seemed very willing to get help from us because he has got a
problem, and it’s a real problem for us. Don’t forget those cartels are
operating in our country. And they’re poisoning the youth of our country.
O’Reilly: At this
point, do you consider Mexico a corrupt country? Because this stuff has been
going on for decades.
Trump: I love the
people. I really like this administration. I think he’s a good man. We get
along very well. But they have problems controlling aspects of their country.
There’s no question about it, and I would say the drugs and the drug cartels,
O’Reilly: Have you
figured out what kind of a tariff you’re gonna levy on Mexico to pay for the
Trump: Well, right
now it’s very unfavorable. Right now, we’re losing our jobs to Mexico. You look
at the plants, these massive plants. Now I have to tell you, I’ve turned it
around already, I’ve turned it around. You see that. Ford has been phenomenal.
They cancelled a plant. They’re building tremendous ...
O’Reilly: Yeah, you
intimidated them. They’re afraid of you.
Trump: I don’t know
if they’re afraid of me. They wanna do what’s right.
O’Reilly: They wanna
do what’s right? Why didn’t they do what was right in the past? They’re afraid
Trump: Because the
wrong people spoke to them. But they’re gonna do what’s right, and they’re
bringing jobs back to Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania and all the places
that have lost their jobs. That’s already happening. I think you’re gonna see
tremendous job growth in this country.
O’Reilly: Let’s turn
to domestic policy. I just spent the week in California. As you know, they are
now voting on whether they should become a sanctuary state. So California, and
the USA, are on a collision course. How do you see it?
Trump: Well, I think
it’s ridiculous. Sanctuary cities, as you know, I’m very much opposed to
sanctuary cities. They breed crime, there’s a lot of problems. If we have to,
we’ll defund. We give tremendous amounts of money to California — California in
many ways is out of control, as you know. Obviously the voters agree, otherwise
they wouldn’t have voted for me.
defunding is your weapon of choice?
Trump: Well it’s a
weapon. I don’t want to defund a state, a city.
O’Reilly: But you’re
willing to do it?
Trump: I don’t want
to defund anyone. I want to give them the money they need to properly operate
as a city or state. If they’re going to have sanctuary cities, we may have to
do that. Certainly that would be a weapon.
O’Reilly: Is there
any validity to the criticism of you that you say things you can’t back up
factually, and as the president, if you say, for example, that there are 3
million illegal aliens who voted and then you don’t have the data to back it
up, some people are gonna say that it’s irresponsible for a president to say
that. Is there any validity to that?
Trump: Many people
have come out and said I’m right. You know that.
O’Reilly: I know, but
you’ve gotta havedatato back that up.
Trump: Let me just
tell you. And it doesn’t have to do with the vote, although that’s the end
result. It has to do with the registration. And when you look at the
registration and you see dead people that have voted, when you see people that
are registered in two states that voted in two states, when you see other
things, when you see illegals, people that are not citizens, and they’re on the
registration rolls. Look, Bill, we can be babies, but you take a look at the
registration, you have illegals, you have dead people, you have this. It’s
really a bad situation. It’s really bad.
O’Reilly: So you
think you’re gonna be proven correct in that statement?
Trump: Well, I think
I already have. A lot of people have come out and said that I am correct.
O’Reilly: But the
data has to show that 3 million illegals voted.
Trump: Forget that.
Forget all of that. Just take a look at the registration, and we’re gonna do
it, and I’m gonna set up a commission, to be headed by Vice President Mike
Pence, and we’re gonna look at it very, very carefully.
that’s good. Let’s get to the bottom of this. 2017, can Americans expect a tax
Trump: I think so,
yes, and I think before the end of the year. I would like to say yes.
Americans in 2017 expect a new healthcare plan rolled out by the Trump
administration, this year?
Trump: In the
process, and maybe it’ll take until sometime into next year, but we are
certainly gonna be in the process. Very complicated. Obamacare is a disaster.
You have to remember, Obamacare doesn’t work. So we are putting in a wonderful
plan. It statutorily takes a while to get. We’re gonna be putting it in fairly
soon. I think that, yes, I would like to say, by the end of the year, at least
the rudiments, but we should have something within the year and the following
question. You get four hours of sleep or some crazy thing like that. When your
head hits the pillow, do you ever say to yourself, “I can’t believe I’m here. I
cannot believe that I’m the president of the United States when I wasn’t a
politician, I didn’t start out this way, that wasn’t my life goal?” Does that
ever come into your mind?
Trump: Well, I must
tell you, the other day, I walked into the main entrance of the White House,
and I said to myself, “This is sort of amazing.” Or you walk into Air Force
One. It’s like a surreal experience, in a certain way, but you have to get over
it, because there’s so much work to be done, whether it’s jobs or other nations
that truly hate us. You have to get over it.
How do you see this game?
Trump: Well, I like
Bob Kraft. I like Coach Belichick, and Tom Brady is my friend.
O’Reilly: They’re all
taking gas because of that, you know.
Trump: I know,
they’re talking a lot of heat. But you know what? They’re also getting a lot of
popularity out of it. I think they’re gonna do very well. Tom’s a winner.
O’Reilly: So you’re
rooting for the Patriots?
Trump: I think the
other team is fantastic, though. No, I think it’s a fantastic team. Turned out
to be a good quarterback. But you know, there’s less pressure on the Patriots,
because they’ve been there. Once you’ve won, once you’ve done it, and they’ve
done it, once you’ve done it, there’s a lot less pressure. So we’ll see what
happens. But you know, you have to stick up for your friends, right?
O’Reilly: Sure. Now,
Fox Sports is demanding I ask you to make a prediction.
Trump: I hate to make
O’Reilly. But you
Trump: I hate to do
it. I don’t even know what are the odds. I guess it’s pretty even, two great teams,
pretty even, so I’ll say the Patriots will win.
O’Reilly: By how many
Trump: By eight
O’Reilly: All right.
That’s a good presidential prediction, and we’ll see.
Trump: Shouldn’t be
doing those things, but that’s OK.
O’Reilly: You don’t
need data on that.
Trump: I need no data
President, thanks very much for taking the time.